All Welsh rugby fans have a special place in their hearts for Scott Gibbs, his injury time try in the 32-31 defeat of England at Wembley 1999 one of the greatest days in Welsh rugby history.
It was just one chapter of a distinguished rugby career that transcended rugby’s two codes.
In union, he won 53 caps for Wales and was part of three British & Irish Lions tours, picking up the title of Player of the Series in a memorable 2-1 triumph against South Africa in 1997. In league, he won the inaugural Super League title with St Helens in 1996.
Now residing in Cape Town, Gibbs is in Dubai as part of OSN’s Rugby World Cup coverage and sat down with Sport360 to discuss some of his most memorable moments in the game.
Can you see anyone besides New Zealand winning this World Cup?
It’s a tough ask to think someone can knock them over. We’ll look back at the end of it and think ‘didn’t the All Blacks make it look easy’, because they know all about the hoodoos of quarter-finals. They know how to play hard and ugly if they need to, and with the game-breakers they have they can flip games on their head with great footwork, acceleration, coupled with all that experience in the front five.
Not many people gave Wales a chance but they’ve made the quarter-finals. What do you put that down to?
I know they’re well prepared and they’ve gotten over the disappointments of losing some of their key colleagues. They know and relish these big games. If you’re going to go well in this tournament and do the impossible then you have to knock over these big teams along the way. The England game was the biggest game in Welsh rugby history. The only bigger game is going to be Australia then hopefully the biggest game in Wales’ history will happen at the end of October.
Why weren't you pessimistic about Wales’ chances?
The injuries aside I don’t think we’re weakened. Our depth is eroded but I thought Wales could get out of the group. The challenge now is backing it up and beating Australia which they haven’t done in 10 attempts. There is enough experience in the squad to overcome adversity.
Tell us about your previous World Cup experiences?
1991 was my first World Cup. I was working as a researcher for ITV at the time. It was predominantly facts-based back then so there was no video to research the opposition so we hadn’t seen a great deal of Argentina. We didn’t even know where Western Samoa was. I remember that game, the disappointment of losing (16-13). Eight of us were sent to Cardiff Royal Infirmary in our tracksuits. Phil May clutching his shoulder because he dislocated it. Anthony Clement had a few broken ribs, and then the rest of us were suffering cheek bone and jaw injuries because they were vicious.
I remember the consultant surgeon coming out and looking at us and thinking what the hell happened to you guys. We told him we just lost against Western Samoa. He said ‘thank god you didn’t play the whole of Samoa’. My jaw’s still a little bit loose from playing against them.
What about 1999?
It was different for me. I was going in feeling great and then all of a sudden I was in quarantine for 10 days in the hotel, later diagnosed after the tournament with Legionnaire’s Disease, so I lost lot of weight and felt really under the weather. More disappointment as we went out in the quarter-finals against Australia. My World Cup experiences haven’t been great.
And what was your time like in Rugby League?
I thoroughly enjoyed it. The most enjoyable part of my career was playing three seasons for St Helens. Great people, played for a great organisation. Amazing town and support, I really have the fondest memories of my career there.
I suppose you always have that fondness when you’re winning and we were fortunate enough to lift two trophies. We won the Challenge Cup and the Super League.
As for THAT 1999 game against England at Wembley…
I picked the wrong day to have a poor game. I mean, you take the try out of it, I had a dreadful game. We managed to claw ourselves back in a second-half revival; Shane Howarth scores. Neil Jenkins didn’t miss a kick. Lawrence Dallaglio didn’t take his shots at goal so we were still in the hunt.
There was a high tackle on Colin Charvis that gave us field position. Scott Quinnell and I had gone through the playbook earlier in the week. We hadn’t really got a strike move off a lineout, it was a Hail Mary pass essentially. He and I were on the same wavelength.
Chris Wyatt made a great pass. What we needed was Scott Quinnell to catch the ball, running across field, dragging defenders with him so maybe there was some space to hit a hole. I picked my hole, came on like a steamtrain and danced through the English defence and scored. I threw the ball to Neil. He wanted me to score under the posts but he was immaculate that day. He was never going to miss.
A fantastic day in Welsh history. It was the last sporting event at Wembley and I’m just delighted to play my part in that wonderful stadium’s history.
What is your career highlight?
I’m saying it because of the World Cup and Wales v England. There’s never an insignificant match. Both of the ones I won were in dramatic circumstances. Ieuan Evans’ try where he kicks through and outpaces Rory Underwood to score was a massive shock to beat them.
Obviously to close the game out at Wembley having been trampled by England in the first half, when they were going for the Grand Slam. Any Welsh victory over England is special and means so much to the nation.
Who’s the best player you’ve played against and with?
Tim Horan and Walter Little telepathically, physically and skillfully set the bar so high in midfield play. Jerry Guscott was special to play with. I played rugby league with Jonathan Davies and he was very special too.
Physically that body didn’t belong on any rugby field but he could play. He would see things happening before they happened and his ability to evade was second to none. I was blessed growing up to watch him play and then play with him.
The 1997 Lions tour was also special?
The Lions tour defined me as a player with my exploits. I have fond memories. I’m glad I shared that. We came together. There was a great blend of what was required to go to South Africa and beat them. The squad was young but well selected, both in terms of personality and talent. That was key to success.
John Bentley’s inclusion wasn’t everyone’s cup of tea but when he was upbeat he kept everybody’s spirits up. He borders on being a comedian and a lunatic and he loves to tell anecdotes.There’s some stories but I’ve always been very serious about my sport so I’ll leave him to add some colour.
Ireland “couldn’t even fathom” French characterisation of Johnny Sexton as a “big-time” personality, according to lock Devin Toner.
Leinster lock Toner completely rejected claims Sexton threw his weight around at Racing Metro, making more enemies than friends in his two-year spell in Paris.
Racing coach Laurent Labit has branded both himself and Sexton as failures for the British and Irish Lions playmaker’s inability to forge a long-term career in the Top 14.
Sexton has returned to home province Leinster this summer, with unnamed Racing sources likening his behaviour to temperamental Sweden striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic at Paris Saint-Germain.
“Well, we couldn’t even fathom him behaving like that,” said Toner. “He’s just another player with us, he’s not big-time. He’s the 10 who runs the show but that’s what we want. He’s not big-headed, he’s a very down-to-earth guy so we don’t recognise that at all.
“He’s the same as he was before he went to France. I’ve played with Sexton since schools rugby so I’m pretty used to it to be honest.
“They mustn’t have been used to that in France, but it’s a hugely positive thing for the team if lads aren’t getting their roles right.
“He’s not going to do it for the sake of it, he’ll be doing it because there’s a reason behind it. It will be because lads aren’t in the right position or knowing their roles, so I think it’s hugely positive for the team. Obviously they weren’t used to it, but we’re glad to have him back to be honest.
“I think he grew into being that kind of leader. Back when we were playing schools rugby he probably wasn’t as dominant, but now he’s older and he’s learned the game and grown into it.”
Blockbusting centre Ma’a Nonu becomes the All Blacks sixth centurion on Friday but without his hero and inspiration Richie McCaw alongside him.
McCaw has been sidelined from their final Pool C match against Tonga in Newcastle after taking a knock to the thigh which coach Steve Hansen downplayed as nothing serious, as with the All Blacks already through to the quarter-finals there was no need to risk him.
That left Nonu rather disappointed his skipper, the world’s most capped player with 145 Tests under his belt, would not be playing in his milestone appearance.
“He’s a bloke that keeps trying for the best,” Nonu said when asked what motivated him as an All Black.
“I think he’s the best rugby player that’s played the game and he’s still playing at the top of his game and being part of that and knowing him and watching him play just inspires me more.”
Dan Carter, who has worked with Nonu in a fly-half and inside centre marriage throughout their All Blacks careers, said it was “awesome” having the bruising No 12 riding shotgun for him.
“The thing that makes it easiest about my job playing alongside Ma’a is that he has actually grown as an extremely vocal player in the team,” said Carter. “He gives me a lot of direction. He’s my eyes and ears playing outside me, telling me what he’s seeing and helping me with my option taking.”
— All Blacks (@AllBlacks) October 8, 2015
Meanwhile, Tonga stalwart Nili Latu gets his one and only chance to play the All Blacks before stepping off the international stage.
Latu, 33, captains the side in what is his 43rd Test since making his debut in 2006. A 2007 World Cup veteran who was omitted from their 2011 squad, Latu has spent many years playing provincial and Super rugby in New Zealand. But a Test match against the All Blacks has always eluded him until now.
“I believe this could be my last season with the international team and it’s just a perfect way of going out,” Latu said. “I’m really excited about the game. I played a bit of rugby over in New Zealand with Richie, and a lot of the All Black boys are my friends as well. It’ll be good to rub shoulders with them but this could be my first and last game against the All Blacks.”