Dylan Hartley’s performances against France and Wales at the Six Nations were not up to his standards.
Should the England skipper be dropped?
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Alam Khan and Matt Jones debate whether it’s time for Hartley to be benched.
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Alam Khan says YES
England may revel in the euphoria of a battling win at Wales, their 16th in succession, but Eddie Jones clearly has tough decisions to make if they are to continue their all-conquering charge. Dylan Hartley wasn’t on the field when Elliot Daly ran in for the crucial try, nor when his team defied the hosts.
The word ineﬀectual was bandied around about the hooker’s contribution to England’s cause in Cardiﬀ as he lasted just 46 of the 80 minutes. It followed 54 against France in the Six Nations opener. Match fit or not, he is simply not performing, a passenger that England can ill aﬀord, or even need, to carry.
When he’s focused, he’s ferocious and solid in the set-piece, and there would be no debate. But a six-week ban in December for a stiﬀ-arm challenge on Sean O’Brien, taking his career total to 60, has left him under scrutiny.
Hartley says it was a tackling issue and he is undergoing specific work to avoid a repeat. But whether it’s technical issues or temperamental, the 30-year-old has proved a liability, letting down club Northampton and country.
That’s not worth the risk when there are options available at hooker and captain. Jones has repeatedly backed Hartley, but I’m of the belief that you need a captain to see out a game, to be courageous, cajoling and calm. Martin Johnson set the benchmark, but Hartley is nowhere near that level.
There’s talk of him as a candidate to lead the British and Irish Lions in New Zealand. At this rate, he won’t be in the squad. Owen Farrell has been mentioned as a future skipper and, at 25 and increasingly influential in games, he could be a great option.
Maro Itoje, at 22, another possibility, although probably more of a long-term project. And the time is definitely right to start Jamie George at hooker. Busy, brave and a driving force, the Saracens man has been one of England’s excellent ‘finishers’, but deserves to start and the chance to keep Hartley on the bench.
It can only enhance this fine England team.
Matt Jones says NO
England rallied from a 13-8 half-time deficit against Wales to make it a record-extending 16th consecutive game unbeaten with skipper Dylan Hartley oﬀ the field, but this is no time to dispense with their ferocious hooker.
Saracens livewire Jamie George came oﬀ the bench to good eﬀect and clamour will certainly heighten for him to replace the Northampton Saints lynchpin after two underwhelming performances.
But a poor 54 and 46 minutes against France and Wales respectively does not negate the superb run England have enjoyed under Hartley’s leadership. England have been a diﬀerent beast since Eddie Jones took charge and they would not have ascended to where they are without Hartley’s animalistic attributes.
Tough and tenacious, he is a warrior king who inspires all around him. He certainly has his flaws – 60 games missed for club and country due to one indiscretion or another – yet the fact he still remains such a focal point for both speaks louder than any criticism.
After Chris Robshaw’s mild-mannered and meek leadership, Hartley was just what the slumbering Red Rose needed. Robshaw lost more matches (17) than any captain in history, a period that included a four-year spell without a Six Nations title and a group stage World Cup exit.
An injection of passion was demanded. Hartley duly delivered. In stark contrast, he has become England’s most successful leader, with a win percentage of 97 per cent. With the 2019 World Cup just over two years away, now is not the time to be blooding a new hooker or captain.
Despite a dip in form, June’s Test series in Argentina is the earliest opportunity for Jones to even contemplate a replacement. Forwards coach Steve Borthwick said prior to the seismic Cardiﬀ clash England were trying to increase the number of leaders in their team.
Dropping the sixth most capped player would fly directly in the face of the model of consistency and progress England have become with Hartley as their heartbeat.
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The winning streak continues
Wales dominated the tackle area and looked sharp in attack but couldn’t string together the killer pass to force a breakthrough midway through the second half.
England, on the other hand, seized an opportunity from a Wales slip-up to extend their unbeaten run to 16 games.
With Italy and Scotland awaiting in their next two matches, Eddie Jones’ side should equal the All Blacks record of 18 unbeaten wins by the time they roll into Dublin to face Ireland in five weeks.
Dylan Hartley rarely finishes a game but England have enough leaders
The England captain was substituted early again, with Jamie George entering the fray after 47 minutes.
Hartley has been substituted inside 60 minutes in his last six international games. Some may question bringing off a captain that early in a Test match and what it does to the dynamic of the team, but England have enough natural leaders to deal with Hartley’s absence.
With Maro Itoje stepping up, Owen Farrell a key figure, and Ben Youngs and Joe Launchbury captaining their respective clubs, Jones has plenty of leaders without Hartley’s on-field presence.
In George, England clearly have a better player who offers more in ball carrying ability and work-rate, but Hartley’s strength is his physicality, set-piece presence and experience.
Late decision making cost Wales the game
Leading by two points, Wales defended effectively for up to 30 phases before an attempted Jonathan Davies clearance kick failed to reach touch. From the ensuing England attack, Owen Farrell spread the ball wide to Elliot Daly who raced through from 30 metres to score the winning try.
In those frenetic moments, it’s important to think clear under pressure but in that position, it’s criminal for a player not to make touch even if it’s inside his own 22.
CJ Stander is a class act
The Munsterman was an inspirational presence at the Stadio Flaminio, battering Italy at every opportunity.
His sterling performance was capped off with three fine tries, as well as producing a Ronan O’Gara-esque kick to tee up Craig Gilroy for Ireland’s eighth try.
The 26-year-old continues to develop into one of Ireland’s central figures despite having only 12 caps to his name.
In addition to his scoring exploits, he made 22 runs (a total of 62 metres) and 10 tackles.
Surely, a shoe-in for the Lions?
Vast improvement from the Ireland bench
Ireland never looked in trouble but it was fitting to see some notable contributions from the replacements when introduced.
Stander, understandably received man-of-the-match as he started, but Gilroy deserves a special mention for his 30-minute hat-trick, evading each would-be tackler better than the next.
Josh van der Flier was outstanding for Ireland’s final try, John Ryan looked solid when introduced for Tadhg Furlong, and Ultan Dillane showed a touch of panache that was absent against Scotland last week.
Wales were 16-11 in front with nine minutes left but an Owen Farrell penalty reduced their lead before left wing Daly went in at the corner for a converted try that extended England's national record winning streak to 16 victories.
A fast-paced first half ended with Wales five points in front at 13-8.
Leigh Halfpenny's boot appeared to have secured victory for Wales but England rallied to ensure their Australian coach Eddie Jones retained his perfect record as Red Rose boss.
The decisive passage of play saw Wales force a turnover near their own try-line only for centre Jonathan Davies's aimless kick to be run back in style by Daly, who beat Alex Cuthbert for pace for a stunning try.
Significantly, Farrell added the conversion and that meant Wales had to score a try just to equalise. But England's defence held firm.